quietly-living-life:

nestorness:

You might think it’s oppressive, but what you might not know is that the church/Catholics/God still loves those who act against His teachings. In my opinion, it’s not even about oppressing people, it’s about remaining pure. We don’t ex-communicate those who have pre-marital sex. I also would like to hear where abortion IS the best option, cause there’s many options for those who are pregnant. Honestly, having an abortion is usually and pride can often be related. High school girls who say “I can’t be carrying a baby/be pregnant everyone make fun of me” is a common example. And what about the baby itself, aren’t you oppressing the child’s life to live? What kind of choice is that?

So oppression against a fetus isn’t okay, but oppression against a woman is okay? Is that what you’re saying? Also, how is it not oppressive to think that someone isn’t pure just because they’ve had sex outside of the confines of marriage? The fact that you think that that’s not oppressive at all makes no sense to me. I mean, you’re basically telling women who have had sex outside of marriage that they’re not as good as women who wait until marriage, thereby making them feel like utter shit about themselves. Not to mention that all of the focus on the whole “don’t have sex before marriage” thing is on the women. You Catholics don’t seem to care at all if a man has sex before marriage. You don’t think of him as being impure, nor do you make him feel like crap about what he did. Also, those “Purity Ball” things that you conservative Christians have to encourage abstinence, those are completely focused on the woman. There are no male versions of the “Purity Ball,” and I’m pretty sure there isn’t even a male version of the “purity ring.” Seriously, how is any of what I just said not oppressive at all?

As for some valid reasons to get an abortion, I’ll just copy and paste what I said to someone else who asked about that:

Are you saying that you’re completely okay with a child being abused rather than it being aborted? I mean, if a woman knows that she’d make a horrible mother, and she knows that giving her child up for adoption would absolutely destroy her emotionally, do you really think that woman should be forced into motherhood, even though her child would likely end up being abused and/or neglected? Whether you like it or not, there are valid reasons for getting an abortion. You can deny that all you want, but it doesn’t make it any less true. 

I mean, what if a pregnant woman was anorexic and she wasn’t willing to go through a recovery program so that the fetus inside of her could get enough nutrients?

Or what if a pregnant woman was addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, and the fetus inside of her ended up being hurt by the drugs and/or alcohol rushing through her system?

Or what if a pregnant woman was mentally ill (to the point where she was abusive towards herself and/or others) and she wasn’t willing to give her children up for adoption?

Or what if a pregnant woman was already dirt-poor and supporting a child would just put her deeper into poverty? 

Those are all logical reasons to get an abortion, so why do you seem to be so content to just ignore the fact that those situations happen?

We do encourage abstinence for men, personally I believe that men have to take a bigger role on practicing abstinence in order to encourage women to practice abstinence. I do realize that religion in general, not just Christianity favors men over women, which is something I personally believe religion needs to fix. We also don’t condemn women who have had pre-marital sex, we condemn the act, but God, and the church, always offer forgiveness and love to those who are willing to realize their faults.

Look, I acknowledge your research and pro-choice stance. I realize that is your opinion as an atheist and as someone who might have had bad experiences with religion. I hope you can acknowledge our (fred, alyssa, and mine) stance against abortion. This walk is to TRY (again, I say try, not force, not attack not degrade) and convince those you have the same opinion as you that abortion is wrong. I really hope that one day you might re-think your stance. 

(Source: fcjcyouthnorcal, via mrs-annie-odair)